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Norrath
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Hi Guys,

I know long time no see, but I really have missed you guys, boy have things changed.

Just need some advice on which option to get, I have the choice of getting Telstra bigpond adsl or cable.

The plans I have my eyes on are the following:

Plan speed: Cable
Up to 8000 / 128 kbps ( I don't know what that means, is it 8 megs a second?)
Standard Unlimited* (Bundled)
10gig downloads, slowed to 64kbps after limit.
$29.95 a month for 1 year then back to $59.95 for the 2nd year. ( 2 year contract)



or ADSL2+
Heavy use plan (up to 24Mbps, Not sure if it's as fast as cable)
Unlimited 30gb download, slowd to 64kbps after limit
$59.99

Which is more value for money, is it true cable is faster than adsl? and is it easy to use 10 gigs in a month ( casual surfing, download a few songs and maybe future online gaming - waiting for the Ps3 (Sorry folks)

Any help would be kindly appreciated!

Thanks
13/10/2006
Sydney
novaboy032
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Norrath said:or ADSL2+
Heavy use plan (up to 24Mbps, Not sure if it's as fast as cable)
Unlimited 30gb download, slowd to 64kbps after limit
$59.99



but thats just my opinion
13/10/2006
In Your Sock Draw
member8898
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adsl2+ is lightening fast if u want fast go that i would have it but it aint available in my area
14/10/2006
Mandurah,Western Australia (I am the egg man, I am the egg man. I am the Walrus
zfishes
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hey mate

the ADSL 2+ plan u're looking at is from tpg right ?
I m getting the same one soon

up to 24Mbps means the speed of the connection will depend on how far ur house is from the local adsl exchange so the closer = the faster the speed

the cable speed is slower than the maximunADSL 2+ speed

If u post a thread on whirlpool, u'll probably get a better idea on the services of these plans
14/10/2006
Earlwood, NSW
Norrath
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Thanks for the replies, just foiund out some bad news, i went to the tpg site and put my num in and found out it isn't avaliable in my area yet only normal adsl.

Looks like cable is the secon best option, how does that telstra deal sound to you guys? It's a 2 year contract but I get the first year half price as my landline is with telstra.

Do you reckon 10 gigs is enough for music, occasional online gaming and download's of educational films ( wink wink).

Still 8megs a second sounds really fast, I should be able to download a song off itunes in a second right?
14/10/2006
Sydney
Huey
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ADSL2+ ftw.. i'm on TPG ADSL 256/128 atm but received an email from TPG in regards to a free migration to TPG ADSL2+.. which i obviously accepted.. and i'm being transferred to ADSL2+ on the 18th, and will take approx 1-5 working days to complete.. speeds of up to (theortecially) 24000/1000kbps (equivalent to 3MB/sec download:125KB/sec upload).. it depends on how far you are away from your local telephone exchange.. the further away you are from the DSLAM means your speed is slightly decreased. i live pretty close to mine so my speed will pretty be up to par. i'm only going on ADSL2+ Medium but for $49.95/month and 18GB download limit (capped at 128k/128k), i'm not complaining... BRING ON THE SPEED!
14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
Huey
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dude, 8Mbps does not equal to 8MBs per second.. there is a difference between BITS and BYTES... there are 8 BITS in 1 BYTE.. thus, if you divide 8000 by 8... that equals 1MB per second, not 8MB. downloading a song (for example a standard 4MB song) will take you 4 seconds to download on cable.. which is still quite fast.. but yeah.. ADSL2+ is faster than the cable plan you stated.

EDIT: oh i just read that you can't get Adsl2+ in your area which is a shame, i would have definitely recommended getting that.. but still, i'm sure you will be able to cope with cable speeds, however i'm not sure about the 10GB limit.


Norrath said:

Thanks for the replies, just foiund out some bad news, i went to the tpg site and put my num in and found out it isn't avaliable in my area yet only normal adsl.

Looks like cable is the secon best option, how does that telstra deal sound to you guys? It's a 2 year contract but I get the first year half price as my landline is with telstra.

Do you reckon 10 gigs is enough for music, occasional online gaming and download's of educational films ( wink wink).

Still 8megs a second sounds really fast, I should be able to download a song off itunes in a second right?

14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
member8898
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i do fine on a 2gb limit and i downloaded 600 hundred songs last month and still had some left over
14/10/2006
Mandurah,Western Australia (I am the egg man, I am the egg man. I am the Walrus
junglecat
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cable slightly better, if u cna get adsl2 best u can get....my isp didnt have access to it on our area, so as soon as they do i'll have it
14/10/2006
Victoria
oweneddie
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Yeh i have ADSL 2 but if you want a cheap one then go for the Cable one
14/10/2006
NSW
arnoldo
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i hav adsl with optus, also very fast, my limit is 21GB per month and i download songs, movies, games and much more stuff. it is the life.
14/10/2006
The ORiGiNAL ArNoLDo PsP 4.01 M33-2/1.50
junglecat
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i got 25 gig

but i have to hsare with my bro and dad...

*edit*
norrath, get the adsl2, 3 times as much downloads and much faster speeds (my friend got 600 kb/s on a sp ep dl, wheres i got 120, and im on adsl)
14/10/2006
Victoria
Mystikyl
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i have telstra cable and it is quick well thats cause i used to hav dial up lol but yer i only get 10 gb a month but its not bad i hardly use it anymore.... but yer it takes around about 5 secs to download msn messenger unlike 40 mins on dial up haha well yer i find it quick and cheap so yer and telstra always have like upgrades for cheap so yer lol
14/10/2006
Brissie, Qld
raybert
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i got adsl on aapt plan for about 39.90 a month including tax and its pritty fast my friend has adsl2+ and its realy fast and i realy wanted it. i was on a cheap dial-up plan with tpg like last year.
14/10/2006
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Huey
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that's impossible.. 600*4MB (4MB is the standard 128kbps mp3 file) = 2400MB = 2.4GB.. not to mention that everything you do on the internet requires uploading and downloading (i.e. surfing web pages, email etc)

member8898 said:i do fine on a 2gb limit and i downloaded 600 hundred songs last month and still had some left over

14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
member8898
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is was a compressed zip file it was the best 600 songs by rolling stones magazine so there lol and the quality wsa bit low the download was 1.8 gb
14/10/2006
Mandurah,Western Australia (I am the egg man, I am the egg man. I am the Walrus
Huey
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then technically you didn't download 600 songs, you downloaded 1 zip file which contained 600 audio tracks and when people download songs, i would automatically assume that they wouldn't go for anything lower than 128kbps (even 128kbps is crap quality to me)
14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
member8898
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touche' huey anyway shouldnt this thread be locked it has served its purpose
14/10/2006
Mandurah,Western Australia (I am the egg man, I am the egg man. I am the Walrus
Huey
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i guess so, but i still think there's a bit of mixed feelings towards the issue so i guess i'll finish it...

cable has no limit as to how fast it can download no matter how far away you are from your cable provider... however with ADSL2+ on the other hand, the further u are away from your local telephone exchange, the slower your download/upload rate is. however, considering that you really wouldn't be too far from your local telephone exchange, your download rates should still be blistering fast.. and comparing that with 8Mbps on cable, i would highly recommend ADSL2+ but if you however are unlucky enough to not be able to get ADSL2+ or live pretty far away from your local telephone excahange, cable will be fine as well. remember, BYTES are bigger than BITS.. so if it states Mbps that is stating in BIT form.. if it states in MB/s that is stating in BYTE form. 8Mbps is slower than 8MB/s..
14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
Norrath
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Thanks Huey, it looks like i'll go with the Telstra cable option, I believe download speeds of 500kbps up to 1mb are fast enough for my needs. I guess it will be a big change as I have been on dial up for 7 years now and only decided to upgrade since I now have a job ( Cashier dude at Target - LOL )

I believe the change in speed will be a godsend as it would take me 25 - 30min to get a single mp3 from limewire (nothing illegal folks, just file sharing)

And with bigpond I can use their gaming servers and download services without having the downloads and uploads counted towards my 10gb limit, so that means unlimited online gaming at cable speed.

Just a few more questions to Huey and the rest of the gang, if I just do normal internet surfing and stuff like that, how many mb's / gigs would I normally use?

And if I use peer to peer programs are my download speeds defined by the program, uploader???

Just want to get a rough idea on what speeds to expect and finally does the brand name of the modem/rputer effect the speed you recieve.

Thanks heaps Guys
14/10/2006
Sydney
zfishes
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make sure u check with bigpond as they may count upload in the total 10GB
14/10/2006
Earlwood, NSW
Norrath
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Yeah uploads are counted which sucks, but in reality very little gets uploaded when your on the net, unless your uploading files on purpose.

I guess i'll just block most of my outgoing ports with my trusty firewall.
14/10/2006
Sydney
zfishes
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TPG actually doesnt count it so when I can leave Bitcomet on all the time I usually use 20GB+ a month on movies/games/music/flickr/youtube ect
14/10/2006
Earlwood, NSW
Huey
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yeah tpg doesn't include uploads towards your download quota which i love; i cant wait till my adsl2+ is installed.. only 4 more days
14/10/2006
Melbourne, Victoria
zfishes
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u know what the down time will be when they upgarde to ADSL Huey? heard its only few hours right?

I was on their 20GB/$50 1.5mbits plan which they were lossing money onwhen Telstra increased the whole sellers prices
14/10/2006
Earlwood, NSW
 
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