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The 3 plays is only when you send a song you have paid for to another zune, which I wont be doing anyway. I think MS also has plans for DRM.

Not sure where your going with the whole fanboy thing at all there..

I have a walkman phone, a k800, though that maxes out at 2gb and a pretty small screen. The zune has very large screen, big hdd, good battery and looks sexy.

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Are they out yet?

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i-river clix2

very very good

and yes! hell to those ipods! iriver winnsss!!!

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Yeah zunes have been out for a while now. The next zune is being released later this year.

Vinzor: irivers are the best, no doubt, I had a iriver h120 back in the day, I refused to get an ipod, man that mp3 player rocked, though I sold it for a PSP.

But the zune just seems to do it for me at the moment.

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In Australia? I know they're out in the US, but I haven't seen them here...

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Na don't think they are out here, stupid how there not..

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LiLnuG says:

im looking for a good music player also...my bro got a samsung k5.. really kewl...im looking to get a creative zen v lpus...but people have been saying that the stick in the middle comes off easily... can anyone help me..does anyone have a zen v plus?

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im looking for a flash player 2 gig

not the hard drive ones

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abuu91 says:

A good idea first is to try and avoid any 'fanboy' opinions, follow your instincts and look for what is best value for money (size for money) Several years ago I found I got better value for my 5gb Zen Micro compared to the 4gb iPod Mini (both size and quality wise) and I was satisfied with the choice that I made. I won't settle with iPod just because everyone else has one.

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hmmnodice says:

I hate people who are anti ipod its like being against getting the best product and value for money. Sure everybody has them but thats for 2 reasons one popularity, and two they are the best at what they do. Nothing has been able to trump its sleek designs, its user friendly interface, the clickwheel and the space it offers, with mac and windows support and integration of itunes and austrlais first online music store. 3rd party accesories support is enormous. I am not an apple fanboy i just recgonise a godd porudct when it comes along. The zune could have been a great product, yet its now too late for australia, by the times its released here better stuff will be out, the wireless features its main sellign point are dead pretty much because poepl use phones for music aswell with the speed of bluetooth and 3g network it is posibble to send/download and play songs quickly without drm. Also the zune out of the box lacks the capapbility to be an external hardrive, not recognised by windows as removable sotrage.

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I think ipods image sells it more then its features.

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Ipods aren't audio players, they're fashion accessory's. They are just so common it makes me want to strangle everyone I see with those tacky white headphones... And the amount of times the word ipod gets said is just sickening... ipod this, ipod ****ing that! And honestly, what kind of a gimp would actually buy MP3's online? Especially for a phone... I have a 30gb Creative Zen Vision:M, the audio quality squashes the ipod's. I tested the same MP3 with my dads ipod video, it sounds so cheap and hollow compared to the Zen. Sorry dude but when you buy an ipod, you're only paying for the name...

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ipod. iDont give a f*ck. now that is one of the most hilarious ipod parody's that my brother has shown me

ipods - there have been MANY complaints of them being broken. even when looked after properly...

now, how many people have seen ipod commercials? basically everyone who has one and everyone who hasnt had one.

how many people have seen a zen commercial? iriver? and many other ones?

not many people.

ipod = fasion statement.

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hmmnodice says:

Ipod created the mp3 revolution and now everybody tires to catch, nobody else used to offer so much storage, everybody copies it.

Three Most Revolutionary Gadgets last few years.
Gaming:
PSP

Mobile Phones:
Motorola Razr

Music:
Ipod. The end.

The only reason you hear about them breaking is because so many people have them. There are bound to be probelms in any products its just so man people own them. That you hear about it the most.

"I see with those tacky white headphones" better than the zens color scheme of puke green.

"And honestly, what kind of a gimp would actually buy MP3's online?"
Accroding to the RIAA buying mp3s is the only legal way.

Quality i highly doubht you did a controlled test anyway with same bitrate and same headphones.

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razr = also crap. anyways, this is just IMO

how about a i-mate jas jam? they are superb

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All three of those are debatable.

Every person I know with an ipod has had to either get theirs repaired of its just died out of warranty.

ipods were very late to get video on an mp3 player and flash memory, and still haven't got wi-fi or a wide screen.

Anyone with half a clue about what makes a good mp3 player will defy the trend and find a cheaper mp3 player with more features, like a iriver or creative as an example.

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yes! that's the name i was thinking of! creative! ohhh how i love them

i have creative speakers

but i sooo love logitech... *droooools*

and frankie, thanks! that is exactly my point proven right there!

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eversuns says:

Hey guys... I for one own a Zune,

and know of 3 people at my school who also own them. I personally love my one and think it is a great mp3 player. I really like the album art and the big screen size. Firmware updates do come out and fix things... all the bugs seem to have been ironed out so new features should be the next to come...

I would recommend a Zune

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novaboy032 says:

dude ipod got sued quite a few times because of how easy the metalic back on the ipod photo & video got scratched

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hmmnodice says:

"ipods were very late to get video on an mp3 player and flash memory, and still haven't got wi-fi or a wide screen. " considering the zune isnt even officail released in australia. If not all mp3 players lack this. Ipods are about having you whole musci collection, hence big storage so inorder to have these feature had to have hardisks untill price of reasonable big cpacity flash became availble.
when ipods did get video they had the biggest screen on the market.

"Anyone with half a clue about what makes a good mp3 player will defy the trend and find a cheaper mp3 player with more features, like a iriver or creative as an example."

What extra features do they offer, radio big whoop. Ipod has excellent features with massive market of 3rd party support and integration. How come i havent seen a creative dock.soundsystem yet so many for ipods.

Im sure you can find a cheaper product, but with the same sotrage ,ease of use and support i doubt it.

"dude ipod got sued quite a few times because of how easy the metalic back on the ipod photo & video got scratched
"
well apple sued creative for stealing patent designs.

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Who the @#$% buys ipod docks.. worst inventions ever

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grey_snake says:

The only reason this thread has had so many replies is cause everyone is talking about the iPod...

...good or bad its all publicity.

Apple would be loving this!

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hmmnodice said: Ipod created the mp3 revolution and now everybody tires to catch, nobody else used to offer so much storage, everybody copies it.

Ok dude, nobody copied ipod. The idea of an MP3 player with a hard drive has been floating around for years, since the first 32mb MP3 players came out in the late 90's. In four or five years, expect your average MP3 player to have about a terabyte of storage.

Also, V3 Razrs, PSP's and ipods are not revolutionary. The PSP was a flop, Razrs have the same features as those $99 cheap ass Motorola's, just a different form factor, popular doesn't mean revolutionary. Ipod? Just the first onto the market.

"Zens color scheme of puke green"? My Zen is black. I don't understand what you're getting at...

"Accroding to the RIAA buying mp3s is the only legal way"
According to me, the RIAA can suck my dick. If you pay for MP3's, you are a sorry little gimp. Try this website >> *REMOVED*

"The only reason you hear about them breaking is because so many people have them." Not true, they are dodgy. Anybody with the capability of logical reasoning can see that.

"Quality i highly doubht you did a controlled test anyway with same bitrate and same headphones." Same headphones (the ipod ones) same bitrate (320kbps) It was the same file, I copied it to both players.

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